Naomi Klein on Obama
April 18th, 2009 Posted in Uncategorized
therealnews.com Klein speaks about Obama and the intellectual and political integrity of the progressive movement
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April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Funny thing is the way we measure prosperity (GDP) is all wrong - we should measure the common man’s ability to pay his way in life, his percentage income for rent, food, gas. If we were to have this info available, we would see that things are getting worse, not better. for at least the past 20 years.
At least with Obama, he cares about these things. And people love that.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
the only thing that has historically worked was the indigenous model of resource sharing and ecosystem preservation.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
I see problems with both a capitalist system as well as a socialist one.
we need something new.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
It’s the same in ANY political system. My girlfriend grew up under communism and she knows all about people seeking their own interests! The secret is to minimise the damage caused by people seeking their own interests - I’m sure we agree here. Big and even modest governments all help create powerful people. A huge amount millionaires would never have become so rich in a REAL free market since a common way of making money is through copyright enforced through government.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
@wikichris: The true soothsayer of the great magnet! But as a political human being I am aware that I am doomed to life in a state with other human beings as mankind is a state-building kind of animal [to refer to good old Aristotle], as I am neither a wild animal nor a god that I would not need the state in my autarchy! So, as I have to lie with other humans I am trying to make the world I live in sufferable and comfortable to me. So I have to check, command and overbear the free-market…
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
the idea of the free market as self-inflicted slavery, as far as I know, is that money is required in order to live and you must work in order to make money. Therefore if you want to live then you must work. Although the same is true if you grew your own food, built your own shelter, etc. But the difference is your working for your own interests and not those of others. Not to mention that there is a finite amount of jobs in a free market with a natural rate of unemployment.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
The free market is self-inflicted slavery? Who are you to choose what other people choose to do with their lives?
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
@MaxwellBennett: No doubt she is full of shit for sure but Milton Friedman is full of even more shit! That vile base lackey of the merchants! Who thinks working all time and making the co-called free market the centre of your life; this is not life but self-inflicted slavery! So you can put them both in a bag and beat them with some blunt object until none of them moves anymore!
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
The awful thing about such tomfools like this one is that in Europe people like her are depicted as critics and protagonists of some sort of American counter culture and stuff but in fact they are just a bunch of whining and degenerated dimwits; on case of internal enemies liberalism is a poor choice as in America they whine about what they whine about but in Europe the same kind of morbid characters are much more open and honest about their treacherous desires…
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Perhaps you can delineate for us “how the world works” in a nice digestible format. Perhaps in a three point principle outline?
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
It’s clear from these comments that a lot of people have not yet understood the dynamics of the populist political paradigm.
“How can a demagogue like Obama get elected?” “How can an airhead like Klein gain a media voice?”
People…this is so simple to understand!
These people have simple figured out that the vast majority of Americans are IDIOTS. In other words, you can gain an INSTANT MAJORITY simply by appealing to idiots. This is so much easier that trying to win using superior ideas!
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Klein is a total idiot. She doesn’t know facts, has no wisdom, does not understand principles of how the world works. She’s immature, and I really can’t understand how she is getting any attention at all?
I GUARANTEE there is no environmental emergency. There will be NO WHERE NEAR the action claimed to be needed done. And, so we will see that the scare is BS.
I remember in SF in 1990 Earth Day people said we’d run out of air in 10 years. We accelerated ‘deforestation’ since then.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Google ” More than 700 International Scientists dissent over man made global warming claims” Naomi is busy, maybe she’s had no time to keep up with real science.
Obama continues to escalate the 3 war fronts, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan. No change there…
Obama’s major contributors were and are the large banks, all getting huge bailouts. No change…
Obama is creating more non-productive beaurocracies in DC. No change…
Gov of the elite, for the elite, by the elite…no change.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Naomi Klein is one sexy pundit!
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
For zombiesoiree: I left the Democrats after Obama was elected during the primaries. I used to help them. I was really mad at what they did to Hillary. Yes, Obama is not getting the US military out of the middle east. He could do a lot now. Bill Clinton did a lot throughout his entire 8 years. That is why they paid a hooker to seduce him and then publicize it.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
For me, though, it was a failure in leadership. The whole Dem party failed to stand up, because they were giving the Reps rope to hang themselves with. It worked beautifully for them, but it was completely unethical. And look how Obama banked on his early opposition to the war!
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
For zombiesoiree: I know. But can you imagine what pressure she was under? If she had said that she was against the war, which she is, she would have been cut off right away. She has a very large conservative voter base, which she could not afford to lose at that time. That voter base was vital for her and it was counter acting the voters who had left her because of the slander against her which was infused into every single society circle and it stuck well with libertarians and liberals.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Naomi Klein you are a stinking Zionist !!
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
I didn’t like Clinton’s foreign policy at all–she did support the war–but health care was the single most important issue for me back then. Now it is second behind the economy, and Obama isn’t really stellar on either issue. He’s served his hedge fund managers well so far.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Yeah, most of the countries with U.S. army bases are not going to wage wars. Those govts must give up foreign adventurism and are limited to robbing their own people.
I agree that constructive politicians would be a blessing. Unfortunately, the manner in which they fund their projects is destructive. It’s called robbing Peter to pay Paul, with a big chunk skimmed off the top for themselves. Govt giving = govt taking. Imagine how much wealthier we would all be if that didn’t happen.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
For zombiesoiree: Finally someone said something good about Hillary. Thank you. I fully agree with you. Nobody at that time did any research, they did not even look at Hillary’s and Obama’s websites. How can people even vote if they don’t read the politician’s websites? It made me really bitter. If more people had paid any attention at all, they would not have been able to bribe the delegates. Hillary did win the primaries. Most people don’t even know that. Some people are in denial.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Progressive politicians are and have been working to direct our tax dollars to more constructive projects than war and occupation. I know that, especially looking at America’s history, getting saddled with the bill for politicians’ wars might seem like an inevitable outcome, but that’s no reason to say that war and taxation are intractably married. There are plenty of governments that tax their citizens and spend their money on crazy, pinko institutions like higher education and health care.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
The blame is on everyone. We could stop the war anytime we wanted, if we had control of Congress. We could tell them to stop the funding. But we can’t. Congress is above us. Their taxes are mandatory. That means we must pay as much as they want no matter what they spend it on. And war is a favorite mechanism of those who receive the taxes. Progressives are just spinning their wheels if they think they can end war by yelling. Even after this war ends there will be another, and another.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
could you explain how taxes beget war please? because last time i checked the war hawks always seem to be the ones shrieking for tax cuts. nice try trying to shift the blame for war of all things on progressive ideals bro
April 18th, 2009 at 4:19 am
I’d tap her. Too bad she’s full of shit. Milton Friedman destroys her arguments 6 feet under.